When I was consulting I used a PO box and hid my name on the company listing. The invasion of privacy, threats, etc became too much and they opted to disappear from the limelight. Awesome article about the shadow/down side of being a “famous” person. I’m admittedly guilty of asking a few of our mutual friends to connect us for coffee etc when I’ve been in Austin or you’ve been in Israel, so I’m sorry if I’ve added to that stress. Thanks for writing about this, Tim! I’ve found books like Awareness and Radical Acceptance to be helpful. Thanks so much for taking the time to put this out there! If you're an aspiring … Christian Bautista, Martin del Rosario, Iya Villania, Saab Magalona, and Georgina Wilson: the good and bad side of fame. From someone who never desired fame, your perspective seems to some up the reasons why. But don’t you think the world has also become a darker place over time? You actually (and unintentionally) help me decide long ago that I didn’t want to be famous. She grew up with many different music Fame has its perks and might seem attractive at first, however most people don’t see the negative side. I have a small YouTube channel (3k subs) and I’ve noticed that my most popular videos are the ones with the most dislikes and negative comments. I’m lucky to have the support of my family and friends, my girlfriend, and my guardian and fluffball, Molly. It’s a small sample size. I just like the way you think. I’ve gotten into a restaurant when I didn’t have a suit and tie on. How many people are truly obsessed with modern media idols? Thanks for the honesty…. Thank you for sharing. Great Article Tim – always love your raw, honest, thought provoking writing. Critical is fine, but if you’re rude, we’ll delete your stuff. The Media's Obsession With Celebrities: Fame's Negative Side. This might come as a surprise to some because after all why wouldn’t anyone want to influence. I must say Good-bye, my pupil, for I cannot longer speak; Draw the curtain back for Venus, ere my vision grows too weak: It is strange the pearly planet should look red as fiery Mars,--God will mercifully guide me on my way amongst the stars.” ― Sarah Williams, Twilight Hours: A Legacy Of Verse. It is phenomenal. Seems like a small and insignificant audience in the grand scheme of social media popularity, right? Felix Kjellberg on June 07, 2018: Thanks for the low down and for sharing your thoughts with us. Box as the Unit Number. I can’t say that. Flash forward to my life in July of 2007, less than three months after the publication of my first book. If you’ve ever wondered why many celebrities disappear for a period of time, sometimes years, it’s often in the hopes that the below will fade or go away. Ellen has inspired homosexuals everywhere to accept themselves for who they are and give them the courage to come out in front of others. Perhaps not. Wow, that is really enlightening and scary. In concrete terms, what would “successful” look like and over what period of time? A very generous heads up. That’s the #1 rule in some kind of protection. Pershona Lebourgeois on January 04, 2020: There also narcissict. Celebrities and other famous … I just need enough (to not have to worry about the fare on the taxi meter) – I don’t really need fame or fortune. Fame is a very hard aspect to handle, but with the right amount of focus and common sense, fame could very well be … I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t trade places with you, even though I’m fascinated b what you do. James popped up. What do we know of Providence? As one to follow and even chase shiny objects hoping the next thing will bring me happiness it’s good to get a helping of the flip side. Even having a meal with them is extraordinary; from the constant staring and hearing their name whispered to the ‘can I just have a selfie?’ in the middle of the main course. As long as people see fame as just a part of their life, form personal relationships, and enjoy the other aspects of life, they should do okay even if they are not made for fame. The answer lies in the word- famous, but fame for different person is different. Hmm a bit of a dilemma for me. If you are able to, you can channel fame into doing a lot of good things, and sometimes, simply being yourself will inspire many others. Each blind man feels a different part of the elephant’s body, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. “The VALUE of a thing is the amount of what I will call life, which is required to be exchanged for it, NET the amount of I will call life, which it will create, immediately, or in the long run”. Thanks for sharing the wise words of warning. This should become required reading in public schools and colleges. Now I am merely speculating but I think he was tired of being exposed all of the time, of having to carry weight, maintain an image when all he wanted was to keep making music. I personally believe that as long as you do what you want to do, become successful in it and adapt to the spotlight, you won’t have much problem with fame. Have fun and thanks for adding to the conversation! There is very little content like this around this subject. It’s just not worth it. Wow scary! I vividly remember the day I received an email from someone we’ll call “James.” James was a frequent commenter on my blog, and we’d become friendly over time. I liked your reference to “1,000 True Fans.” It’s almost like applying your question, “What would this look like if it were easy?” to the topic of fame. In the introduction, I happened to mention that the founder and CEO of DonorsChoose was my wrestling partner in high school. When Odysseus is on the island of the Phaiakians, as part of King Alkinoos entertainment (his xenia toward Odysseus) he presents the Phaiakian dancers, in the hope that Odysseus would, “on his return tell his companions we excel the world in dance and song, as in our ships and running” (Homer 132). Jhënê Äîkô . Because being “famous” is not nearly as important as being yourself. Jamie Lee 777 on October 08, 2019: I’m a Pisces woman and I used to know an Aquarius woman who completely used me to entertain herself. It must be awful to be approached so often by people at their wits end. They are often scared and victims of their circumstances and need help and support. But the only possible way to make your life significantly meaningful is—there are two ways: to positively affect the people around you with love and caring, and to effectuate some change that lives on after you, which is very difficult. Even after rehab, she spent the day after last Thanksgiving trying not … Share to Twitter … Suffice to say, I didn’t realize that this type of thing was part of the Faustian fame-seeking bargain. Was there anyone totally off the rails in your class? Here be dragons…. Both touch on this issue in different ways. There are legions of people on Instagram alone with audiences of this size. It is much appreciated. As luck would have it, I got to test this hypothesis. See if you can spot the fakes. Examples of this are mostly singers and models of today who face a lot of criticism because people think they are popular not because of talent and hard work but because of looks or influence. That is a positive result of a sad history of human rights violations and injustice. Such an interesting blog post! There could be a bit of a delay, maybe 1/2 a day depending on the arrival time of the item. Thank you for this. The good side effects we can see during this medical crisis brought about by the coronavirus is the love, concern and care shown by dedicated caregivers, nurses and medical workers. I should know. For the "naturally-quiet" Christian Bautista, living his dream of being a singer-actor entails sacrifices along with the blessings. Pratham Dekha is a family drama, that is based on the struggle of two singers who struggle from the bottom and rise to fame and popularity. However, it may provoke intestinal fibrosis with the development of strictures which require surgery. The YouTube comments (500+) were almost all sexual even though the subject matter of the shows was not. Please reconsider you multiple references to people off their meds. I’m sorry that you have to deal with all that. Many young people have one single goal in life: to become famous. I’ve picked up a few new useful tips from this – especially the different name for taxis and hotels. You can also pick up at UPS or FedEx locations/stores as well. It’s been a wild ride. Thank you so much Tim! Very few people do that. Thanks for putting this out, it puts a lot of what you do in perspective. But how could this be true? Is this preoccupation with famous people harmless fun or is it bad for us? Fame is a very hard aspect to handle, but with the right amount of focus and common sense, fame could very well be handled. That’s it. For fun, Google “New York City” and click on “News.” On some level, those are the dynamics—good and bad—you will need to deal with if your audience is that large. In a metaphysical sense, what you attract to your life is a reflection of you. Happiness comes in all shapes, sizes and income ranges. Are celebrities bad for you? Stay safe!! I write on a range of topics. I like this post because I have always thought it would be awful to be famous. Hats off to you Tim! Author: Polly C. I love the written word, and the ability to catch an idea, moment, or experience, and share it with others. Even then,you seemed a little mystified by what was happening, so it’s good to read you’ve come out the other side in good shape. To recap: the bigger the population, the more opportunities and problems you will have. Being famous generally means being richer. Wow, you always seem so easy going and kinda teflon, y’know, like stuff doesn’t stick to you. Keep in mind: this high school was in the same town as my elementary school. Yet I disagree with the “toothpaste out of the tube” concept: delete your social, stop blogging, close your website and rest assured that in six month’s time you will be comfortably anonymous again. Not sure if it’s nationwide or not. Wise. Fame is a dangerous drug. Everything changed. Tim: I’m so sorry for all that you’ve gone through. There’s not much downside to being rich, other than paying taxes and having your relatives ask you for money. Shows. I really feel that you genuinely wanted to help people and you did. The good and bad effects of fame Karin Kallas The good effects The bad effects FAME Media Haters Stalkers Perfect look Fake friends Over spoiled Feeling all alone High expectations Too enthusiastic fans Unforgivable mistakes 15 minutes of fame Rich It’s great that artists and great people can inspire millions. And I say “seeking fame” deliberately, because—let’s be honest—I’m not really famous. Being famous, as Tim states, only magnifies all of it exponentially. I remember meeting you at the London meetup for 4HWW in 2008. In part, because there is clearly a bright side to their dark side. Nevertheless it gave a startling insight into the world us non-famous mere mortals almost never see – the sad and sick people who gravitate to the famous. Even small amounts of “fame” come at a cost. This has been especially helpful since I’ve started to build a decent sized audience and I always wonder about that. contrary to the majority of your posts, this one doesn’t hold any actionable information for me since I will never be famous nor I wish to be (wouldn’t mind being rich though). Our society is so fame driven, this type of writing gave me a new perspective. There’s also a lot of “tall poppy syndrome”. Anyway, I am always cheering you on, from down the street in Half Moon Bay. The good and bad sides of fame Celebrities in politics and Celebrities with social media. How much fame suits a person honestly comes down to individual preference and resilience when facing its consequences. Entertainment and sports figures' names and images have been used to encourage … Here’s an email I received in July of 2007: [Your sport] shows that you are a hypocrite to profess helping others with your book. Peer pressure, whether we believe it or not, can also play a … Really grateful that you did become famous as I and so many people have gotten so much out of what you have offered to the world. Thanks for a really great post, Tim. Stay strong Tim. See, my boy, that nothing turn you to the mere pursuit of fame. That’s really about it. Shit is real. It’s clear to see that there are many dangers of fame, but at the same time, it could be hard to accomplish anything big in life if you try to stay anonymous. Your best blog (of the ones I read). Next, think back to your freshman year in high school. By Jessica Bennett On 2/21/08 at 7:00 PM EST. Know that I have a tremendous amount of respect for what you are doing in the world. We are all part of a whole and our human condition/persona construct is made up of emotionally unstable parts and we are all maybe an incident, a chemical rush away from psychosis ourselves. Nonetheless, the sentiment was real. He taught us to keep a low profile. Despite being less than 1/1000 famous than you I got into some of the same issues you mentioned, this is why I started to separate my social media life to my real life in order to protect my family but I definitely got inspired by next level. A positive antidote to the trend that seems to be going around of getting famous at any cost. Only now, along with disappointment, you will have the new challenges described in this post. —Chris Sumlin. Have you read Jon Ronson’s “So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed” or William Storr’s “Selfie”? He thanked me for all of my help over the years and explained that it had helped him through some very dark times. The Every musician, their goal in life is to play music that people love, and I've accomplished my goal. For instance, I’ve been following your work for years and I legitimately think are personalities are such there could be a bromance. I would fall under “microinfluencer” and sometimes get recognized at events. The explicit goal? Thanks for this Tim. I tend to think so. I read them for your thoughts/experiments/screw-ups, and enjoy that more than a podcast. And how many of the remaining folks will simply wake up on the wrong side of the bed today, feeling the need to lash out at someone? Great post Tim. I don’t often read your blog posts, but the odd one catches my eye. I couldn’t do it. Yes, because she was famous, she was criticized and harassed by everyone, but she managed to live through it and change it into something positive and impactful. I was impressed by how accessible you are without an once of arrogance or seem annoyed by my “omg you’re Tim Ferriss!” Keep up the good work Tim! Keep on going searching for truth, Tim and don’t take the world too serious . (Thanks to Brian Oberkirch for the inspiration.). Instead, fame is likely to magnify all of your insecurities and exaggerate all of your fears. I understand your curiosity though . Hollywood Walk of Fame: The good and the bad - See 17,568 traveler reviews, 13,893 candid photos, and great deals for Los Angeles, CA, at Tripadvisor. You’re lucky, too. I’d like to be anonymous and rich. So I don’t think that’d be a good idea. Been more than a year since working from home has been a necessity for all, After getting our two-wheelers license we all stay chilled. I’m deeply appreciative for you shining a light here. Wow, just wow. My past isn’t squeaky clean by any means! I’m a technologist. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Pura vida. An unusual and really fantastic post showing the pleasures and the pains of fame. OTOH, a fraudulent guardianship that was filed in an adjoining state was thrown out of court because the nonexistent address the thieves used was itself proved fraudulent by a drivers’ license check. They cannot walk around in public anywhere in the world. No more having to explain to your aunts and … Actually, just wanted to thank you for blogging again. So you will receive a ton of respect from a lot of people. Ask a 7-year-old child if he/she wants to be famous and 9 out of 10 times, the answer will be yes. As for those whose fame is a result of hard work, talent, high IQ or great achievements, their fame is well-earned. I’m glad you wrote this after checking about it on Twitter (and/or elsewhere). I will also talk about some of the risks and downsides, which can be horrifying. Great blog! Is fame going to impact your life negatively or positively? It often takes child stars down paths that lead to substance abuse, criminal charges or jail time. I read your first two books, should really pick up the others as well. But it would be enough if people would just be happy about their idols contribution rather than using their idol as a all-in rolemodel. At the time, I was 28. It was #1 in England and America. The Ugly Side of Child Fame: From JonBenet to Corey Feldman What the JonBenet indictment and recent biographies say about child stardom . keep churning out the content. I even had a discussion with my son as we share the same name. Now, I’m kinda worried for them and will probably share this article with them so that they can protect themselves. This also goes for vulnerable young (and often not so young!) You betcha! I have a question about the “Friends with alterier motives” section. Thank you so much for flagging. Though, to be clear, I actually don’t want anything from you but to thank you for the impact you’ve had on my life (and perhaps develop a casual friendship like those I maintain with many other people in our industry). Great article thanks Tim. Shame on you. Thanks, Tim. First off, what type of “fame” do you want? Thanks for being real about this, Tim. I never really leave comments online however i wanted to let you know that this post is outstanding. But certainly appears to be a safer bet than fame. Comment Rules: Remember what Fonzie was like? It was succinct: “James learned so much from you, and he instructed me to give you this video.” I clicked on the attachment. I also highly recommend reading Kevin Kelly’s essay entitled “1,000 True Fans.” Is it possible that being “famous” to the right 1,000 people could get you to your goals faster—and be healthier—than seeking the adoration and validation of millions? Steven Adler Before 2007, I was the blind men. Definitely not. The best jokes, he believes, take something awful and make it silly. P.O. Boxes are helpful for mail and packages. Whoa, Tim. I do not care about fame but as an up and coming speaker I know that the more famous I get the more speaking gigs I get + the more I can charge per gig. I am not a celebrity. I’m working on my own internet company (inspired by 4 hour work week). Love what you do, well, really like it. She found me on facebook and asked to be friends which I agreed to against my better judgement – then she started contacting my ex-girlfriend’s family (we are still friends) trying to get more info on me, while accusing me of still being with my ex and cheating on her. Reinforcement of stereotypes against people who need medication does not help anyone. It’s one of your best posts to date. Many are former migrants or refugees, who fled poverty, oppression, fear and suffering for a new, better life. Daz Bog was founded by two Russian brother immigrants that emmigrated to the US and settled in Colorado. You get to go to the awards such as BET awards or the Grammy's. Would it have changed my behavior? More freedom, in other words. Looking forward to your next piece. I appreciate the honesty. The good side of fame. Again, more lives will be bettered and more lives will be saved. Eye opening to say the least. You should still wonder: At any given time, how many of these people might go off of their meds? People love to knock you down. Beyoncé and Brad Pitt are truly famous. What I have appreciated most about your podcasts and posts is your ability of being open, honest, vulnerable…well real. While talking at Rising 2020, Phaedra Boinodiris, a member at IBM Academy of Technology and a Fellow of the RSA had an interesting take on the good, the bad and the ugly side of AI and ethics and how biases can lead to AI acting in a way that is largely questionable. Given that we are all alienated from nature, our emotions, in most cases meaningful work, there is a mental health crises. Go purely light-hearted and you risk being toothless. I often say “we are so lucky” to my wife. YouTube people are downright scary. But I did know one thing: it was very scary and completely out of the blue. Fame looks desirable, until we examine the dangerous side effects: Excessive stress. So sorry to hear of those nerve-rattling experiences you’e been through and glad you have a support system that appreciates you for who you are and not what you have or can do. Also, being famous almost always relates to being successful … 6 Things You Must Do When You Work From Home, New Driving License Rules for Car in Nepal 2078, Increase your Amplitude with these 5 Amplifiers, 29 Interesting Facts about Nepalese Handicraft Products, 7 Best Tips to Buy Washing Machine in Nepal, How to Buy Data Pack in NTC | Latest Pack Offer 2021, New Driving License Rules for Bike and Scooty in Nepal 2078, 5 Sure-Shot Tips: Pass your license trial examination in first try, How to help a family member with COVID-19 at home? Good and bad, I've loved and am thankful for that chapter. Fame as a force for good. Such are, for example, great writers, mathematicians and artists. Hi David! It saves you from frivolous litigation and the resulting reputational damage. A small, self-contained town in Idaho might not have a Pulitzer Prize winner among its residents, but it probably doesn’t need a SWAT team either. Keep on keepin’ on. No matter what part you grab beforehand, you can’t fully appreciate the scope of experience until you’re in it. Chief among them will be answering the question: if you win the popularity game, what might you expect? Perils of being a woman. Be famous? I want to build my speaking business but scared of the downside that Tim just shared.. Scary and interesting. Blessings! “If I didn't care for fun and such, I'd probably amount to much. This experience profoundly fucked me up for a long period of time. Here and there, I’d feel the ears (A celebrity in a cover story! Coupled with an obsession with celebrity and the idea of fame in general, the media does not hold back when it comes to laying bare the lives of the well-known. I have been contemplating what happens when you pick up one end of the stick. This article helps me fully understand and appreciate what they went through, so thank you for sharing. Currently, I am especially glad to be reading about the positive effects psychedelic treatment have in helping those with certain mental illnesses like depression, etc. Of course, some child stars cope with their fame very well and can enjoy it. You just need a big enough audience. a utility bill? I always thought that being famous would be kind of annoying, but these things are beyond annoying. From 0–100%, how confident are you that you can convert exposure to income? Love this! Fame is also nice, with fame you may be able to get lots of stuff for free. Light and friendly as 4HWW may seem, it actually grips people who suffer because they don’t feel in control of their lives. medical treatment was the same. Keep doing you! I wrote the book on it—or, rather, the book chapter. Max Clifford, Britain’s most high-profile celebrity publicist, shared with Reuters that stars pressure themselves to succeed. I’ve been very fortunate, and I love my life. I can think of at least a handful who were prone to violence and made me uneasy. Tim that was an incredibly interesting read for me. The point is this: you don’t need to do anything wrong to get death threats, rape threats, etc. You are showing a grave example of the White horseman to our children. Shame on you… Shame. Can’t say I’ve gotten death or rape threats though, but in a weird way I actually wouldn’t mind. With fame you won't be considered a "normal person" you will be … He finished by saying that he was sorry, but that he had to end things. That is good because they don’t need to sacrifice their private lives, they have their freedom of expression + they make a lot of money. Nevertheless I saw you walking in Montreal with Molly by a beautiful morning and we chat for a minute. Being in movies and t.v. Some kids brought knives to school. As always thank you for sharing your insight even on what must be a tough topic for you, Wow! The better side of fame. Your many efforts are appreciated beyond your audience’s ability to share. What about when banks etc want proof of address from e.g. It often takes child stars down paths that lead to substance abuse, criminal charges or jail time. Let the cymbals of popularity tinkle still. In Canada, an […] I’m praying for your safety and peace of mind always. Imagine being Justin Bieber and all that hits you as a teen. I hope that it helps you and others cope with this better. Are you going to use fame to change in the world negatively or positively? But worse so these days with the tv reality shows, social media and the crazy display of wealth everywhere you look. What an excellent piece. Was it in response to a how-to article on clubbing baby seals? I sense that your desire to be of service in the world and make it a better place allows you to power on despite the unwanted challenges of fame. In that short span of time, my monthly blog audience had exploded from a small group of friends (20–30?) ), the tail (Fancy cars in a photo shoot! . Really good article Tim, thanks. Great stuff. I was on a TV show last year and it was seen by millions. In some versions, they come to suspect that the other person is dishonest, and they come to blows. That chapter, “Ready for the Close-up: Celebrity Experience and the Phenomenology of Fame,” describes the dead-end cycle of fame’s merry-go-round through first-hand reports of celebrity experience in the book “Film and Television Stardom.” There are many good people like Margi on the frontline. This type of advanced fame should become the new standard. 15 Facts That Prove Ariana Grande Is The Worst. That’s it, no more no less. 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