Hi, I was at Goudhurst earlier today with my father. I suspect you know more than most people. At about 6:30pm, after flying low over cottages in the village of West Woodhay, it struck Walbury Hill about 100 feet from the top. Let me know if there’s anything you need from Parker’s book, I will have a look at another couple of resources but it does sound like you have the story of S9+AB sewn up apart from the location? If I didn’t live on the other side of the Big Pond, I’d love to go take a look. Simon, this is the reply I got from the Rector of Litlington Church: I refer to your letter 14th January in which you ask for information regarding four white-painted crosses carrying the names of German airmen which you saw in the churchyard here in 1952, when you visited with a fellow Boy Scout. I will search to see if I can find any photos of the crew. Best regards,
I shall take a look Adam, might be a week or so before am able to though, not at home at present. He seems to think the crash was at Heath-croft Road Sunbury, by the Post office. Regards to your Dad.
Do you know what sort of aircraft he was flying? “so I’ll probably post a letter first before turning up and doffing my cap” made me laugh. He says he remembers it in the fifties when he was young and went hop picking. Comment document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "ada11b909784f7a6243e823e6bed67be" );document.getElementById("ibd93b66f5").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I doubt it helps any but you can see if you wish.
A few days later, knowing my love of history, he gave me the number plates & the pilots collar rank insignia & cloth bullion pilots badge, all slightly damaged by aviation fuel but clearly recognisable. walteray.hill29@gmail.com.
Narrows it down a lot. If you want to learn even more about this crash site there was an article written by Andy Saunders in the January 2009 issue of Britain at War magazine titled “A Far from Ordinary Pond”. Any idea as to the approx date or year?
Hi David, do you know the date it happened? A second request concerns a crash site perhaps 1½ miles away at Old Surrey Hall quite close to East Grinstead where a Lancaster crashed. Click the “Satellite” button for an aerial view.
There is a photograph of some RAF pilots making their way back across a mustard field after looking at the smouldering wreckage. And even where German airmen were buried in local cemetaries and graveyards, they were mostly exhumed and reburied at the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase (there are photos of it here under Britain at War)
my Father has a photo of himself standing on the tail of that aircraft as well.
Hi my name is Clive Sweet. However, searching instead for Gefr. Thanks. Off W.D.Jones.
I’m waiting for more information from Ian re this topic. Sleeping rough turned out to be in a horse barn, on fresh hay in a stall next to a couple of snorting show horses. But I wasn’t born till 1948. I have Nigel Parker’s Luftwaffe Crash Archive (am awaiting publication of Volume 12 which is last in the series) which details every Gernman air crash in the UK. Hope you find the site. He took me to the site in the sixties and its now a public park and as far as we know are still buried there.
60024/4 BO Oberlt Max-Dankwart BIRKENSTOCK 16.12.15 Neustettin, Stettin I don’t know Sussex well but was down that way weekend before last, have friends in Worthing.
Let me know if you recall any other detail? I like Nigel Parker’s series, have them all. Did the Luftwaffe use self-sealing fuel tanks? good luck in identifying their final resting places. Sorry I replied to you by mistake. PS..Re story by me above 109 crash at chilham Kent on 1st Sept 1940. co-incidentaly I too now live in Australia. One mountain with 8 aircraft crashes on it. If I get the chance I may go there and poke around, but no promises !
It is said a Luftwaffe aircraft, said to be a Dornier, crashed near (in a field behind, so very close) the village during WW2. A Heinkel He-111 was seen over Alfriston on 10 April 1941. One of the so-called Baedecker Raids, perhaps.
Does anyone have any clues? I know 96 Squadron where flying the Boulton Paul defiant in 1941 and KG55 moved to the Russian Front not long after May 1941, so what was the plane that crashed in Wrexham as indicated, any ideas.
The amount of info regarding the career and demise of that 410 pilot makes me wonder if such detail is available about the aircrew of the aircraft in the 3 photos in my ‘German Bombers over England’ book. Thank you for your response, I am amazed that there is this type of info collated somewhere. We hit the M25 at rush hour on a Friday evening. He’s still alive,I visited him at xmas and he swears the engines were not recovered.
I have a wing flap off a Messasmit 109 or I believe an Avalon ! I am still trying to absorb it all. She says she also recalls seeing what sounds like a dog fight between two small planes (presumably fighters) above Biscot Mill area of Luton around noon one day (she says she woke up her older brother (who was sleeping after working nights) to tell and show him.
Yours sincerely stuart. I’m sure both pilot and passenger were killed.
However, there are 12 volumes, so without the date it would mean trawling through all of them, page by page! Those who were resident in the village at that time were only children, and there is no longer anyone living here who was an adult in 1952. I wonder if the 410 was carrying bombs that caused such an explosion.
Cannot see anything in Volume 1 either. Does anyone have any information and/or a photo of The Dornier Do 17Z (2504) which crashed at Hurst Green in Surrey on August 18th 1940. My email is mfry154@hotmail.com, Yes Micheal I can meet you on the date of the ME109 crash at Hurst Farm if you wish, It came down on the 2nd of September 1940 I believe that it come down at 11.55 am, Be good for us to meet on that date in the village of Chilham and walk down to the crash site, pay our respects …. The smell of rotting human flesh drove us away pretty quickly. Lovely photo with the poppy in the frame! 8/JG26 9+1 Biddenden pilot Fw Gerhard Grsymalla
She says she recalls hearing the guns and seeing red bullets (presumably tracer) and after a while the guns stopped and they flew off in different directions. Does anyone have information about a German plane that crashed at Saddlescombe, just north of Brighton, Sussex? Having read what I could from the books I have I am pretty sure I know the trajectory as the 110 had to pull up over the church before flying over the high street in front of my house (which incidentally was the Home Guard HQ/Office during the war) and the pub before hitting the ground. I was told exactly where it crashed but that was over 25yrs ago & I was in a pub at the time lol. let me know.
Photo of Ray at the crash site on the anniversary of ther air crash 02 September 2020. Usually have my camera slung about my neck and wear a fairly smart jacket to appear presentable but yes, a letter would go a long way! By the time I got there, most of the bits of the aircraft had been removed. Hi Alan, Ian DB got it right , I have all the imformatrion as well and the photo he posted is the correct one,the crash was 6th September1940, he died but his Bf survived by baling out, he was Gefreiter Edmund Ernst. The vineyard is I assume doing fine although I have my doubts about English wine’s future (lots of greedy businessmen out for a quick buck flooding the market) the “magnificent 7” will clean up (Chapel Down, Denbies etc) but I take issue with Rathfinny’s attempt to own and make Sussex wine a PDO (Protected Designation of Origin), a bit like classing wines from Champagne as Champagne as oppose Sparkling from other regions etc. By using this website, you consent to cookies being used in accordance with our. No identification of the spot though he notes debris was scattered over a wide area, which means a better chance of finding the right field sweeping with a metal detector though the farmer may be able to point you in the right direction. Interestingly-enough, the fifth member of the crew was a Dr. Otto Sommer, who is described on the Web as a politician (i.e member of the Nazi Party). Sounds like you have got the right Ju 88. Hello Ian Thank you for the Reply Iam Looking at going to take a Metal Detector over to the site though I may not find anything. Further details are available on the gov.uk web site. Have you tried on the forums? Hi Guys..
I’m only just discovering the history of the area in more detail now as I don’t have to commute to London any more. Unfortunately I only managed to get there two days later, by which time the site had been cleared of most bits of the ‘plane.
Fact or fiction I wonder (again, real life or a film)? In Kent, over 600 terrestrial wrecks have been recorded and over 300 offshore. Brought down by a Spitfire after having dropped 6 delayed action bombs. As you say, they were all human beings without much say in the matter. As well as keeping me entertained down the village pub with stories of his own WW2 exploits he would also tell some stories about his dad’s WW1 experiences & whilst telling one of those he let it slip that his dad had been put in charge of an AA battery somewhere near Lympne during WW2. But the story is similar to that your dad recalls. The M25 is never a good proposition especially the bits that encompass the London airports Heathrow and Gatwick. I remember in the 1970s a helicopter crashing up at the gibbet as well. The gentleman is long dead now so I can not go back to him on that. According to the German source, the captions refer to Do 17Z-2s of 9/KG 76.
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